Legendary electronic musician, London Elektricity, went after the new Destroid live show Monday. He said the show “perfectly encapsulates how utterly and completely shit ‘EDM’ is” and explaining that it made him “very angry.” Check out the tweets, including Excision and JK Sawka’s responses below:
on a lighter note, we can all chortle at this ‘live’ EDM show by @excision. youtube.com/watch?v=wGPOxs… Tell me, is it, like, rad dude?
— London Elektricity (@LondonElek) June 3, 2013
@excision that makes me sad. That clip of your show incensed me – it made me very angry. Were you not trying to provoke reactions?
— London Elektricity (@LondonElek) June 3, 2013
this perfectly encapsulates how utterly and completely shit ‘EDM’ is. @craignan89
— London Elektricity (@LondonElek) June 3, 2013
@londonelek @redhavocmedia wow guys hmmm, thanks for the support? For your information this is ‘live’, what the fuck else would I be doing?
— KJ Sawka (@KjSawka) June 3, 2013
UPDATE: London Elektricity has posted an apology on his blog:
i’ve leaned a lot through posting this link.
1) my former friend KJ Sawka was part of the band, and i didn’t check that out, so i was slating my friend’s band. my fault, and i feel mortified at having done so.
2) even if i didn’t know him, I should have respected the amount of work that clearly went into the show, even if it was not to my taste.
3) I don’t know the other band members, and i therefore dissed their work too
4) I should have thought before I tweeted. Just because I don’t like something, or have a pet hate about the apparent economic expansion and invasion of what is known as EDM in the USA, I should keep that to myself.
5) I’ve enjoyed building up by online fanbase and reacting with them, and for the most part they are used to by outspoken nature on almost everything, but i clearly upset a lot of people. The one i’m most upset about is K J Sawka who i have always bigged up and admired as one of the bets drummers in the world. Kevin, I’m sorry .
Over the past week i’ve had a lot of hate from brostep hatejocks – i don’t mind that, but one or two say they used to be my fans but are not any more, and whilst i know that’s a tried and tested way to hurt someone online, the thought that i’ve lost any real fans is sad – i fucked up and tweeted something i should have known better about.
Read more from his post HERE.
shit, london can suck a huge dick for all I care, at least they’re trying to bring something new to the industry and not drag it down in boredom. I honestly love the idea, love the artists, love the sound, love it all! London is the reason EDM “sucks”, take up a new hobby if you don’t like this one.
Its an over used expression… but makes so much sense. “HATERS GONNA HATE”.
lost all respect for london elektricity, haters going to hate though , get over to australia boys we needa get destroid!
who the fuck is london elektricity? guess no one has ever heard of him…
have to agree with london..cool show music is going down hill..
Never even heard of London elektricity either, sounds just like a jealous fuckwit that cannot simply support GREAT fucking artist, if you don’t like it simply fuck off. But having said that I’d be pretty pissed off too if Downlink Excision And KJ Sawka were destroying it! Fuck haters! Elevate Your Existence!
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It may have been a dick move for him to publicly say this and all, but just because you don’t know him, that doesn’t mean nobody has heard of him. He’s pretty fucking popular in the drum & bass scene, not to mention he’s the CEO of Hospital Records where Camo & Krooked and Netsky are signed, who I’m sure you’ve heard of
I love both drum and bass and dubstep, but how the hell can people not know who London Elektricity is? I believe that without him, EDM wouldn’t be where it is today. To be honest the way dubstep is going id hate to see what the future holds…
First skream and now London elektricity, two pioneers in the edm scene. Really shows how shit the music is starting to become”… or the new generation of music is starting. Pretty soon we’ll all be saying “back in my day we used to listen to london elektricity, skream and logistics” or “what’s this racket on the radio that sounds like someone farting in a didgeridoo”.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and when one of the biggest names in Drum & Bass voices his, everyone hates, personally love both artists music, let them get on with it and make their own music.
What a way to burn the bridges.
Some people are just flat out jealous and should just accept that music evolves and in most cases becomes ‘shit’ from the mainstream making it popular. All good things come to an end for the people that have helped create the scene, I think Destroid is awesome for what it is, bringing something new and interesting to the table.
Haters only make shit famous…good on them and good luck to the london elekticity, they have made a lasting impression.
ur an idiot…. london is bigger than all of em and been making music longer.. what u did was essentially the same as saying the beatles aint got shit on bieber coz u havent heard of em.
Datpurple Guy the beatles are shit anyway so you comment is invalid 🙂
YESSS LONDON… EDM has gone to shit in the past 3 years thanks to all u deaf faggots that think that squeaking is cool.
good job no one gives a fuck what you think. Excision has and any real dnb/bass music fan would have
perfect example of a culture that’s failing and wants to just knock anything that’s doing well. fuck off LE.
DESTROID
Meh. EDM stopped being what LE thought it was when parties left warehouses and were stuffed into clubs and halls as ‘concerts’. This is just the culmination of the whole EDM Rock Star show. The KISS of EDM if you will. Honestly, personally, I love the look and style of it, I just find the music to be generic brostep style dubstep/electro. If that is your bag, you’ll love it. If not, you’ll probably either hate it or be like me and shrug and go find the stuff you do like.
How the fuck can you say you’re not a “real” bass music fan if you haven’t heard of London Elektricity? I’ve HEARD of him, but I don’t know particularly a lot about him because I was probably about 5 when he was making “headway” in dance music. How does that make me any less of a fan than anybody else, because I was born at a different time?
Get off your high horse and realise how embarassing you sound. His comments were incredibly elitist which is funny considering their live show is much more elaborate and complicated than what he does.
P.S. Old =/= Better.
This british faggot should just shut up and go to the dentist. No one likes brits with bad teeth and no one listens to dnb
This british faggot should just shut up and go to the dentist. No one likes brits with bad teeth and no one listens to dnb. X
Datpurple Guy your a fucking twat, London is a has-been, who needs to pull his walker outta the closet to get around. fuckin guys older than dirt.
“at least they’re trying to bring something new to the industry and not drag it down in boredom” , say what? like what? same sounds , but now with stupid shit robots playing fake guitars and shit? are you a fucking idiot? is that what you call good music?
omg you’re so stupid haha
f*ck off you stupid child faggot.
you haven`t heard becaouse you are an ignorant sucker.
shut up. you’re all late on the bandwagon and think you know best… ‘the way dubstep is going’ what are you even talking about. be honest in reality you’ve been listening to it for 3 years at best. you know nothing. London elec’ is a production god.
same basses, different year. yeah this is really moving forward isn’t it.
fucking idiot…
how is LE representing the whole dnb scene? and how is dnb failing? i’d say it’s as healthy as ever. but i agree that tony coleman is a cunt.
london elektricity is long enough in the business to evaluate how EDM has become in the past few years. it definitely went too far in the direction of a transformer raping a screaming woman (i really love this comparative).
literally no need to call them out publically over it…yeah youre entitled to an opinion but doing it over twitter in front of fuck knows how many people is ridiculous! if you don’t like it, don’t listen…simple!
@ black pixel ..so you think bringing the live action band atmosphere back is a bad idea?? i think its a damn good idea. 99% of shows now everyone stares at a massive projection on the wall behind the artist while he stands in the dark behind a desk and does god knows what. I see zero problem with Destroids approach. And as far as “fake” guitars go, Electronic music CANNOT be made with normal instruments so please explain to me how in the FUCK you play a wub wub on a Fender?
Ben Trimble, check out Muse’s track, Unsustainable. Those dubby sounds are entirely Matt on his guitar. 😉
Black Pixel – “Fake guitars and shit”? Go do some research before you comment, idiot.
Datpurple Guy ..did you just compare london elektricity to the beatles?????? yea …everything you say is totally invalid
Another thing that people don’t realize is that this show was more for the entertainment aspect. Since when did electronic music shows have to strictly be only a DJ and some decks? (or in LE’s case, vinyls).
“a desperate attempt by london elec to stay relevant and latch on to the trend of hating on mainstream edm. should’ve picked someone a little easier to hate on than destroid though cause they’re the one of the only groups to do something different in the mainstream that’s moved away from pressing play and jumping around in a dj booth”.
i whis that people knew what is music these days ….this isn’t FUCKING MUSIC …i hear just chainsaws and random noises
I dont necessarily agree with London Elecs approach but yes ppl are very much still listening to DnB, its by far a more worldwide listened to sound then dub step. Dub step will fizzle and dnb will keep chugging along cuz unlike Dubstep, Dnb has a soul.
Shut up Michael you absolute sket.
EDM wouldn’t be where it is today without London Elektricity so it’s fair for him to express his dislike towards an outrageously commercialised live show. It takes away the magic from the music.
@Cameron James Billinghurst the guitars are just customized midi controllers. They are just launching pre-produced samples through a computer but because the controller now looks like a guitar it’s considered ‘live’. It’s definitely more ‘live’ than a normal dj set, but check out OTT or Shpongle with their full band and you’ll realize how silly it is to call this a ‘live band’. And @Ben Trimble, Chemical brothers, orbital, and even disclosure’s live sets incorporate much more live instrumentation than this. Playing electronic music with a live band isn’t anything revolutionary or new. Also that ‘wub wub’ sound is from a synthesizer which is indeed a normal instrument and can be played live, which they are not doing.
Implying music isn’t ‘noise’
Sorry, you have no taste in music if you like this Destroid junk. It’s cheesy crap. Totally lame.
stop sounding like an ignorant american piece of shit.
yeah fair shout. Far from the way i like to enjoy my EDM.
God forbid someone does something different in a music scene, right?
Thanks for saying what we’re all thinking. It’s painful to watch them shuffle around in those idiot-suits. Sorry boys, you’re not Daft Punk. Try for the lowest-common-denominator some more, why don’t you? What’s your demographic with this shit, 13-17 year olds? Looks like a cash-grab to me.
“Try for the lowest-common-denominator”…hmm, it doesn’t look or sound like Swedish House Mafia, Guetta, or Afrojack playing a prerecorded set to me.
You’re an idiot.
Michael Wofford Go fuck yourself, not all of us are like that
Michael Wofford hey hey now dnb is great
yes ! thank you
Good comment. Respect, man
I’d have to put it in the same league, sad to say. It just seems over-the-top cheesy, like if McDonalds wanted to throw a “cool, hip” EDM party.
yeah at least they are trying and changing. if you want go back to your tiesto david guetta zedd calvin harris Britney spears Keisha Riahna ass raidio wanna be house music cause we all know they have totally changed in the last….. never! o and if they are cashing in why would they be aiming at 13-17? they cant go to 70% of the shows. this is for a generation who just wants to rage and mosh to music that is “the world sucks and i’m so angry!” i like it and respect it to fuck off hater and go somewhere else instead of sitting around and judging them.
and any artist who starts saying the genre that they are a part of and even helped start sucks and is ruined so they are quiting were never real artist anyways, would the beatles, the stones, zeplin, balck sabbeth, pink flyod ever say that they are quieting rock because it sucks?
dnb is still going strong after 20 years isn’t it. I can see Destroid lasting about 3 years at most, their music is well produced, but it isn’t fresh or something new, just people in some gimmicky suits.
Ian Hanson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYoh9ofbJHU
He might have come across a bit harsh but in fairness, LE has a point and the guy’s a legend. It annoys me when I see how popular such a small part of dance music has gotten, when it totally overshadows the rest of the scene. And adding funny outfits and making it more like a rock show is taking it even further away from what it should really be all about, the music. I’ve seen comments about how this is better than just watching a screen up on the wall while the DJ gets on with it, but why do these people care? Who stands about at a rave just watching the screen, it’s all about just skanking out to the tunes. And then everytime you listen to the radio there’s always a reminder that the majority of people think brostep is the definition of dubstep and people start calling dnb tracks ‘dubstep’ on the radio. I went to a drum and bass night, in the nightclub Bass in the Edinburgh Cowgate, and at least 40% of the tunes were brostep, 30% were drumstep and 30% were drum and bass(of which at least half was brosteppy noises with a dnb beat.) Anyway if I’m feeling like this, I imagine LE might be a bit annoyed to. However, I do feel that he was maybe being a tad passive aggressive towards these Destroyed chaps, who are probably not bad guys hehe
London dubstep enthusiasts have always been bitter about the way that the U.S. americanized dubstep and made it completely different sounding than London dubstep, yet its categorized under the same genre. So, with reason, London dubsteppers have always been bitter about that. I went to their first show and was expecting more “live” instruments…besides the drums, the two guitar faces were just trackpad buttons that played different sounds. But then again, its impossible to produce dubstep sounds live considering one song takes days and days of work and layers and layers of cells on producing programs. When someone heres “live” they expect it to be produced perfectly in the way that normal live concerts can reproduce music from CDs, but it just simply can’t be like that no matter how hard anyone tries. EDM is going to shit, but we DEFINITELY don’t have legends like excision and downlink to blame for it.
It is possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuunY8BTqNs
LOL what fucking high horse does this London Elektricity dude think he’s sitting on? And as KJ Sawka said, what the fuck makes that not live? Sounds like he’s just a drama queen trying to stir up some emotions. To one his own opinion, but he didn’t have to make such a rude, unprofessional approach. He could also say what he wanted to say while still being respectful but he went out of his way to be a douche.
y’all too serious.
Posting your hate on twitter? Why do some EDM artists act like 16 year old girls on the internet.
I like destroid but I’d never see them live. KJ is the only “live” thing about it. The other two are just using a MIDI to trigger loops, effects and bounce up and down on occasions. Plus there is so much empty space on the stage, it is missing something. Cool outfits though. We’re all entitled to an opinion and LE’s is that of a negative opinion. Big fucking deal.
To be honest Excision’s show lacked in originality. For a lot of pioneers of dance music, such as London Elektricity, to see a show that had compromised a large chunk of its originality to appeal to a wider audience would be a great disappointment.
However I also think that London Elektricity went about criticising Excision in a unnecessary manner.
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The interesting thing I found in the comment from Excision during the preamble to Destroid was “we’ve spent a lot of money on this” Expecting a lot of money back, seems like it’s turning away from the music and more towards the industry and monetary gains, more than doing something unique and different, although they have executed their “branding” with precision, manufactured bands spring to mind like the Spice girls or boyzone/westlife. Robot suits and midi guitars are as cliché the music itself. I think that’s what LE was getting at. By the way guys for you who don’t know LE they’ve been doing LIVE electronic music shows for years. This is nothing new, and the fact they are triggering pre produced samples and trying to call it something new or different is enough to rile any musician that’s aim has been to inject the live back into electronic dance music. Also on another note, who really cares? This argument is only good promotion, hey they might even be mates and be doing this charade to create more buzz, anyone ever think of that? Their robot suits they may look cool, but makes me feel happy they will inevitably feel like a giant pile of sweaty crap after an hour. Also I think it only shows insecurity to have to hide behind a mask, I remember when rockstars were sexy and proud of it. I’m too tired to write a dildo joke, but you guys can fill in the gaps if you want ;).
Why is this even news? For what it is the show looks awesome. Better than watching a pissed up DJ.
LOL. Klute’s the man!
Harry Frost DNB and bass music don’t necessarily go hand in hand, I love all kinds of bass music (and not, not brostep in particular,) but I’m not really into DNB, not my cup of tea. You should check out some Minnesota, I really like his stuff.
Oh okay so because you’ve listened to dubstep longer your musical preferences are clearly far superior to mine.
Haters gon’ hate, alligators gon’ alligate
A bit rich coming from the guy who releases dumbed-down rubbish like that recent Danny Byrd & Roni Size tune.
its certainly 21st centry
verry well put, much respect
“…for what it is…” Exactly. Why get mad about this? That clip had me chuckling hard. Look like a mix of Pendulum, Gwar, and the Terminator. They just strapped Maschines to guitar necks and make silly electro/brostep beats — so what? Whatever. It’s not like I’d pay for that entertainment, but to each their own.
Now back to the Metalheadz Rinse FM show for me…
Everyone’s entitled to an opinion. It doesn’t mean your right. I can see why he’s irritated there are so many DJ’s. It’s like a Green Velvet Song. However his outburst was silly. What is wrong with Destroid doing a live show? London Sinfonietta & Alarm Will Sound did a live orchestral set to Aphex Twin music. Is that bad? Artists especially musicians should experiment, and explore. It’s silly to only think you cannot do something different to your music. Oh London…… I’m disappointed. Be mad at the annoying kids taking molly. Not the musicians. Destroid are working for that dolla’.
I have to agree with LE – Seems like this is in lock step with Daftpunk and Deadmau5 bullshit. Sorry.
Best LE comment since “Playing CD’s is Pikey!” a good few years back lol.
Wow, people arguing over music, that’s something new. What I don’t get is if I don’t like a certain genre of music, I don’t listen to it or pay attention to it. Why do people have to hate on it? Are you that bored and lack that much substance in your life that you need to sit behind your keyboard and talk shit? Move on and let people make up their own minds. If Destroid wants to dress up in robot suits and play midi guitars, let’em! At least it’s creative and not just a dude with 2 CDJ’s and laptop doing an over the head clap to the beat every 2 min. Bottom line, it’s just music, its meant to entertain! Good job Destroid, I support you, now come to Chicago!
Can’t say LE lost a fan, his stuff is good, and Destroid’s stuff is good from another perspective. This kinda crap goes with any music- you don’t have to agree with their personal views, just enjoy the music they produce. Kinda childish for LE to go after a different genre’s artist to hate them publicly..
Music is music. We all have our opinions. We all have differrnces. No need to call anyone out. London Elektricity should gave been a bit more quiet with his opinion rather than tagging Excusion in a tweet. Say your opinions. Thats fine. But when you have that large of a following, don’t post it publically.
People just need to learn to word their opinions like opinions and not try and be music expert douchebags.
sure, the whole premixed thing and just using the guitars for effects and what not isn’t that cool, but personally I think its cool that theyre trying to do something new, its by far one of the more creative things ive seen.
skream is not a pioneer in the edm scene, otherwise i agree. skream was a pioneer for dubstep for sure but not edm as a whole. Its easy to forget the nineties very easy, say shy fx is way more of a pioneer then even london is, like if u want true pioneers of edm then hell look at prog rock bands and their controversial use of synths n then that pioneers. skream was the guy at the transition between duby dubstep and this new overproduced stuf. i love scream and have seen him plenty but lets not confuse him with a truly great, tbh i would put boxcutter above skream and a few other artists that now have nothing to do with it. skream was ultimatly a mainstream artist even if he did come from the old circuit.
All I can say is don’t knock it till you try it. I went to my first dubstep concert (Excision) two years ago, not knowing what to expect, but had a blast. The environment you’re in when you experience the music makes all the difference. Excision’s shows have always had a fun, positive, high energy vibe to me. That’s what makes it great!
his attack is a bit ott but… why would you bother to emulate a live act when that’s not how your music was made. When there isn’t a performer the crowd becomes the focus. That’s something edm and any djing has over live acts. Maybe try and find ways to get the crowd more involved if you want something spontaneous to happen, giant suspended maze/crowd controlled midi spring to mind
Shows insecurity to hid behind a mask? Ever heard of Daft Punk?…they aren’t the least bit insecure of themselves and wear the mask to hide their visage and have the fans focus on the music and not their faces…and besides…we’re not discussing “rock stars”…we’re discussing dance musicians who produce music electronically…different situations for a completely different genre of music
how in the world could this be real? someone please explain. I don’t even have a problem if it isn’t cause at least the drums are real unlike half the prerecorded dj sets out there but I just cant see how they could be playing any sort of music on those ‘guitars’.
a four thousand dollar guitar hero controller…… cute
the drummer drums …props for that // just way 2 hyped guys, described as “band” … meanwhile its just ableton screen projected helmets …not ACTUALLY playing whomps/wobbles with either “instrument”
who is london elektricity?
What a load of crap. Why does LE even care? Is he afraid he will sell less music? This QQ from LE is the equivalent of Garth Brooks saying country music is dead because of artists like Nine Inch Nails.
From what I’ve seen from YouTube videos the show they put on was completely insane…how many edm artists put on a show like that?!
Excision and Destroid are part of the Guetta-Calvin Harris school of cheesy, mass-marketed, cheap music. They have not changed at all; their music has sounded exactly the same for years now, and their fanbase gets younger and younger because anyone who has heard them before is tired of the same crap “womp womp” more-is-better bass sounds. I don’t hate them, but the robot-suit idea is incredibly cheesy and the music is junk. Sorry if you don’t like it when people point that out, but I like my music to be better than half-decent, and I prefer stage-shows to be something other than laugh-/cringe-inducing.
The real problem: their music sucks. The only people who like it are 1.) People with no taste. and 2.) Teenagers who have never heard bass synths and are therefore very easily impressed. By all means, look into other Bass music labels and artists, because they are much much better.
I mean I respect London Elek and Destroid…Musical artists have had fueds since before Mozart haha..don’t exalt people just cause their famous. Gotta understand just cause your a rolling kandi kid doesn’t mean the whole world wide EDM scene is all Plur and roses.. everyone makes mistakes..speaks there mind and to each there own! I still love the shit out of both artists music, altho they are very different, I would STILL go see either show! people making a big deal about it needa smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out! I’m here for the Music! all the other bullshit drama can just pass me by! Pac and biggie feuded till their death..still love them both! Be above the drama and the tabloids…
I agree with this completely. 90s Psychadelic Trance fan here.
This isn’t “shit” its just what EDM has become. Its not the same anymore. When Pystrance and House left the underground and warehouses and was replaced with Electro, Progressive House, and Dubstep, the mainstream took over.
I’m not going to waste your life by writing an essay…
If you don’t respect Destroid, you’re a waste of time.
The words ‘life’ and ‘time’ can be switched and it still makes sense.
Hey man I just have to say that I read your whole post & am a bit confused why you have such an issue with Destroid. I think it’s an amazing effort. Respect to them for going for it- & handling being inside those suits- which- sorry – I gotta say are cool as fuck! I mean how’s the drummer’s mask- awesome! There are not enough DJs acts nowadays doing a performance- rather than a dude with a head down inside of Ableton. I mean how many DJs emulate one another with the same setup & the same look- head down? I reckon you should wait until you see the show to judge. I think we are way too short on ‘shows’. And I think their sound is power- specially Excision- always been at the top of my list- even though dubstep. Dunno man- just wanted to share my view. Coz I really think guys like us – especially in a microcosmic scene like glitch & neuro need to be embracing stuff like this that takes it to the next level. It’s not sell-out. It’s a show. And to me it sounds like them- not like anything else. Just take it all in. If you don’t dig it- then just leave it- no need to rip them apart- there are far too many others on MTV that deserve to be ripped apart. Just my Friday’s 5p worth. Whoop! And as for London Electricity & Daft Punk- pahhhhh…yawn
you moron, if the robot-suit idea is so cheesy in your opinion than fuck off with daft punk, just because they were the first to do it doesnt make it less cheesy
get lucky…
“OMG knife party, bloody beetroots and sbtrkt are all soooooo cheesy they wear masks when they re performing” get a life faggot
I have a problem as it’s made for money primarily. There’s nothing next level about it, just a bunch of dudes in robot suits, no eye contact and restricted movement doesn’t sound too fun to be inside one. I won’t go see it, as I don’t wanna waste my money on a ticket that would be extortionate. Amon Tobin’s live set up was next level, a bunch of dudes in robot suits… hmmm might as well be just robots imo. Music sounds well produced you’re right, but it’s generic trying to be different in a new set of clothes, basically just superficial changes. The branding is clever and they will probably make a lot of money. But it’s just a rehash of old ideas. If you wanna see a band go see one, they will never have anything on the stage presence of the toots and the maytals, and probably never be able to deviate or engage with the crowd as much as real bands can.
Roger Barnickle you said we’re not discussing “rock stars”.. but they damn certainly are trying to be with this act. Also “Shows insecurity to hid behind a mask?” yes it does you are hiding yourself. For some putting on a mask can allow people to become a different person, if that’s not insecure then why put on the mask? Maybe it is to hide their ultimate boredom at the fact their not really doing much at all apart from triggering sounds, which I guess is all they think they can do with live electronic performance. Check out Ethno tek if you want to see someone really pushing the boundaries of what is possible with live electronic performance. Plus the music over the video is from pre produced tracks exactly like the record, no one can play in time that perfectly, and if that’s what people heard live; an exact replica of the tracks then why not just DJ them and not create this illusion of a live show. I do wonder why there is no sound from the actual gig itself, and I would be very interested to hear what it actually sounded like, but i’m not gonna pay money just to see some vague attempt at stage presence. I can’t wait to see Opiuo’s live band, as they use real instruments, processed along with electronics and I get to see them smile and the watch the enjoyment on their faces. You’re detached from seeing emotions when you hide behind a mask for example a poker face. I love seeing a DJ get into it and really rock out and smile. Any ways I’m not gonna argue anymore, could be amazing, could be an illusion.
Respect!
No taste huh? Or then it’s you. I listen to DnB and Dubstep and pretty much everything in EDM. I don’t really get why’d you hate Destroid so much..
http://www.tumblr.com/blog/londonelek
by the way – I was acting about 40 yeears below my age when I posted my original tweet. I’d had a bad day.
no Tony, you were right.
Everyone was thinking it
meh, arena shows and dubstep are destroying everything that was sexy about dance music.
lol
i mean london elektricity just runs one of the biggest drum and bass labels in the world… he went over the top in his tweets, but its true. edm is going to shit, im a big dubstep fan, and the destroid live shows sound like they are gonna be awesome, but the excessive amount of mid-range noise is getting old.
and the stage looks like shit.
Good point, it’s nice to see some common-sense in this chaos!!
Although I appreciate both DnB and dubstep equally, I find that it’s more the dubstep/brostep crowd that irritates me… They tend to be noticeably more abusive, whereas the DnB kids generally have a better temperament.
Honestly, some people have no class.
haha totally warranted.
i love how some of the comments read “no one listens to dnb”
to bad most dubstep producers are jumping ship and dnb has had a healthy following for a loooooooooong time
“sticks and stones”…I have always, and will always love your music. And I frequently find your banter highly entertaining…big up yourself Mr. Coleman!
I still support your opinion.
YES YES LONDON ELEKTRICITY!! <3
@[584167197:2048:James ‘hifire’ Paramor]
Genres and sub-genres mean nothing to me. I just like good music, and authentic artists who make what they think is good, not what they think will make them money. The producers in Destroid have made some decent music, but this stage show is cheesy and gimmicky and done for $$.
Couldn’t of said it better myself.
by “does something different” I assume you mean does something which is less about music and more about milking all that good green american money from the EDM cash cow..?
It was funny when Daft Punk did it 20 years ago; ripping off Daft Punk isn’t cool or clever or funny. It’s cheesy and gimmicky and pathetic.
Niklas Nik Mudenda Go get a taste in music, you bigoted homophobic fuck. Or maybe just kill yourself. Yeah, do that.
destroid is clearly another Americanized exploitation of
EDM. a complete joke. for the record I would rather head London Elektricity
wear a dress and play dnb than the dogshit terrible brostep these assclowns try to protray with this show.
I’m a little disappointed because London Elektricity introduced me into the wonderful world of DnB whilst Excision first showed me some great heavy EDM. I can’t say I’ve lost respect for London as they’re still one of my favourites, but it certainly was a silly comment to make publicly. I still love you, Tony.
lol pinner
Seriously with you there. The Great Drum n Bass Swindle is one of the best albums out there.
EDM stopped as soon as will.i.am started stealing and Anjunabeats did nothing with it!
I’m confused , He talked up Netskys live show and said it was so great but then disses this.
Sorry, I stopped listening when you mentioned the phrase “EDM”.
respect for at least publicly apologizing. that definitely takes a lot of balls to backtrack and admit you were in the wrong.
Dubstep is dying, DnB is thriving- it was around way before Dubstep and ‘EDM’, and will be around along time after. Even the forefather of Dubstep- Skream, has nothing to do with it, because as he states’ the scene is so far away from where it use to be, from where it originated’.
Any DnB haters, come to a Hospitality show at Brixton O2 Academy- it will blow you away. Proper lighting effects, and the best sound system ever heard by mankind. And the atmosphere is electric (no pun intended).
Live brostep is a gimmick, not new or original. Sounds like shit m8.
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While I respect your point, an argument for genre equality can be made here: the generic brostep/dubstep sound sells. As a producer, I don’t give a shit about that. I just like the way it sounds. And there are a lot of folks out there that agree. We LIKE the aggressive, dirty nature. But the equality I’m referring to is the rock industry. There are plenty of “genericore” bands out there, plenty of shitty rock bands, plenty of pop-rock has-beens that PACK shows and sell tickets. So to criticize EDM for its generic nature whilst turning a blind eye to the fact that ALL genres have that problem is, in my opinion, kinda hypocritical.
Bottom line, people like what they like. It takes these producers time and effort to learn these programs on their own and accumulate a following so that they can do shows like this. It HAS merit. It’s not hollow, meaningless bubblegum pop. Maybe we should start respecting these guys more and put more pressure on the rock and pop industry to start making more honest music instead of cranking out any old bullshit that will sell.
If people like it why does it matter? Nobody is ruining “your edm”. If you still want to make what you love do it, if its not mainstream than so be it, if it is than that’s great. I don’t understand why everyone has to comment on how broken EDM is, I get that its popular and what is popular isn’t what many die hard fans consider true EDM but honestly who cares. Music is a form of artistic expression and however you feel about it is up to you, but to generalize and say its all shit is ignorant, bitter, and sounds a bit jealous. At the end of the day I love older dubstep, that is what speaks to me, and I am not going to sit here and hate on something I have no interest in. No I don’t make money doing it, but that’s OK, cause that’s not why I am doing it. I am not doing it for the sake of “true edm” I am doing for me, my expression, and my creativity.
Two metalheads and a really talented drummer that all produce electronic music get together and create a new way to perform their tunes, completely alienating themselves from the mainstream part of the “EDM cash cow” and going back to what made them musicians….and you think it’s LESS about the music?
Yeah I feel you, I love older dubstep when it was more of a underground genre. Now it’s in your face on commercials to sell products with a choreographed dancing medley and it’s losing its appeal to me. People who supported trance and other genres said the same thing about house music causing this great stir of becoming pop.
Nothing can ever stop you from listening to what you like as well as nothing can stop people from making it. Even though many people are abandoning their roots to become famous there is still a few that will stick around.
Everyones entitled to an opinion, big up tony.
Everyones entitled to an opinion, big up tony.
Personally, I think London Elektricity was way out of line with his comment. What is the point in bashing other artists just because it’s not your cup of tea? London Elektricty has been around forever, and I mean he has been a DJ almost longer than I have even been alive, of course EDM is going to be different than when he first started out. It’s 2013 now, not the 90’s. Most of these comments drive me nuts because no one is open to the idea of change. As soon as music starts to take a change all the older people start to get mad and all the younger people love it. It’s the same as when the Beatles first came around, people were outraged that these longhaired rock stars were playing music no one was used to hearing. Music changes, same as anything else. Anyone who says, “Oh EDM is shit now compared to what it used to be” is the equivalent to my grandpa saying the music we listen to is crap compared to the stuff he used to listen to back in his day. I’ve only been listening to dubstep and such for around 3 years now and it honestly gives me goosebumps to see the videos from the Destroid concert. I’m from Kelowna, the hometown of Excision and Downlink, and I have mad respect for the hard work these guys have put into making something different from a genre that mostly consists of a Dj behind a table. I love Destroid, and if you don’t, that’s ok with me. Everyone is entitled to listen to whatever music they want, and that’s the best thing about it. But it’s sad that the only reason London Elektricity had to apologize was because he lost respect from his fans and because he found out KJ Swaka was a band member. He of all people should respect other artists hard work since he was once just like them, trying to make a name for himself and changing the EDM scene.
why so much butt hurt skrillex invented edm anyway he way bigger than all you ass hats.
why so much butt hurt skrillex invented edm anyway he way bigger than all you ass hats.
they see me trolln…..they hatin
The fact that fanboys are still talking shit is blowing my goddamn mind. He clearly made the point that slandering others and being unprofessional can cause negative effects. Sawka, Excision, and downlink are both aware of this and when any member of destroid has posted a response it’s been done in a mature manner. I would hope as fans you would take that to heart and learn from LE’s mistake and stop doing the same. IT’S THE POT CALLING THE FUCKIN KETTLE BLACK. all of you need to stop being hypocrites and grow up…
The scene wasn’t about hating one another because you like other DJ’s, come on people…
Tom: Would you have preferred i said ‘Tekno’? It’s an umbrella term to refer to all electronic music.
Tom: Would you have preferred i said ‘Tekno’? It’s an umbrella term to refer to all electronic music.
Drum n Bass, the strongest and less commercial gender of them all! We will prevail in Jungle Scene! DnB is not dead!
Semejantes LE!
Jungle scene is more alive than anytime before, is just that our country doesnt accept good progress :/
never ever!
Look at all the hipsters. “The scene is dead, it’s gone mainstream, wha fucking wha”. First off, http://i.imgur.com/Pp3CfVm.jpg, second off. It’s not YOUR scene, most of you twats probably haven’t even been in it that long. Second off you hipster fucks, you were not there first, you cannot claim shit. I’ve been in it probably longer than most of you morons, and guess what, I love what it turned into over the past few years. No more lame ass disgusting underground night clubs that are full of vomit and piss, and only about 150 people. Sure, those were some fun days, but these days are much better. Could we do without all the brochad douche bags? Of course we can all agree that they like to push around as if they own shows, flexing their shit like a bunch of brochads, but hey, we all know they are going to get put in prison for raping some girl anyways, so just laugh at them and get the fuck on with it. Let it go already, you say mainstream, I say finally there are massive events where the energy is unmatched at any other show. Now shut up.
well he is right… this is crap and why EDM is opening the door for real music again.
If I might add, music is music, people have different taste I can guarantee some people who like one kind don’t like another. I got hooked by skrillex and the dubstep scene, I’ll admit to that, but moved to hardstyle for the bass and now into more of the mainstream EDM for the culture. Just keep making the music you make, and people will love the songs they love.
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Just a bunch of fucking noise! Only person into this: http://youtu.be/-ltORkYAdVk
Sure would be nice if everyone just listened to whatever genres/subgenres of music they liked and didn’t bash everyone else for their choices in music, huh?
this just looks like Daft Punk on Steroids anyway.
This Guy, the mediator. Must say I like what they have done with there live shows though.
^ i fucking hate those types of people, or people who think that their genre is somehow better and look down on you for your musical taste
um ok, people can say this about literally every genre of music.
Metal- Same screams, different year. yeah this is really moving forward isn’t it
DnB- Same drum pattern, different year. yeah this is really moving forward isn’t it
House- Same synthesizes, different year. yeah this is really moving forward isn’t it
Rock- Same guitars, different year. yeah this is really moving forward isn’t it
get the point? anyway you’re ignorant
I see where he’s coming from, but making out that they’re the next David Guetta is just too far.
Dick move, but I’ll keep enjoying your music for years to come dude. Everyone makes mistakes.
Why can’t we just like the both of them?
I like that he said sorry, But I don’t think its the EDM artists ruining EDM, I think its the fans. Always ready to pull the trigger on “Oh, this is the end.” IF there eas one person in the world that listens to EDM it wouldn’t be over, cause one person would still hold EDM close to him. and that’s good enough for me, enough politics, and more listening and creating ass holes, Its sad that “mainstream fans” Probably all get along and don’t say shit about how something is ruining there genre, and we sit here bickering back and forth about what’s RIGHT about MUSIC < That just makes me laugh and cry a little inside.
LONG LIVE ADAPTED RECORDS AND MOULDY SOUL!!!!!!
HAS ANYBODY EVER HEARD OF OR SEEN THE BAND “GWAR”…….same shit…….same quality.
Don’t listen to this garbage guys. A little innovation always comes against scrunity. Eww…so they haven’t gotten all the bugs worked out yet…jesus, at least they’re trying to push some boundaries here., Give it a little time to evovle. General EDM fans (children) are uneducated morons to edm. They’ve been around for 3 years and think they know it all….lighten up for fucks sake!
So performing live EDM like a DJ with a live band isn’t something new huh? Name 5 artists that do it this way. And by doing it the Destroid way, I MEAN LIVE MIXING WITH A FUCKING BAND. Fuck all you “underground” fans who think very little about the well being of the artist. The fact that they put a lot of that money into a show to entertain YOU FANS should show you how much they care about the experience as a whole. With what Destroid is doing, they can keep the dance floor busy AND entertain people who like watching a performance. What a bunch of assholes for doing something like that (sarcasm).
Sooooo much hate on the Internet. As always, I’m just here for the music.
WOW there is so much negativity coming from this thread it sickens me. People look for any excuse to tear someone down without even thinking of how childish they sound. Is everyone one of those irritating and careless ‘edm snobs’ now? LE, people in the US hated on dnb for a very time (i was there the entire time) and it was extremely frustrating. People hated on it and it took many years for newcomers to come around but we were never disrespected for doing what we loved, people just sugar coated their opinions. I hate trance music, there is my opinion but I don’t hate the artists who are passionate about trance. You are a dnb artist and you of all people should know this . Here is a fact; dubstep has much different history in the US and really took off in the states. Different folks, different strokes. Live performances or not, fans are there to feel the music in a new way and see something that is new to them, live EDM performances are not new but in our country this scene is being exposed to new people every gig and continues to grow and multiply, they wouldn’t know what to expect except that Destroid is comprised of talented and well know US bass music artists. Ive watched that video when it first came out and was not impressed but it WAS the first show of the tour. KJ grew up in Seattle, which is where im from and I know this project means a lot to him. Excision and Downlink are both are in high demand, so why cut down Destroid? They are performing in the US, of course they will be big news. That’s the point. Don’t hate on them applaud them.
doesn’t mean he has to be a dick about it
How about you get an open mind and stop being so overly opinionated? you sound like such an elitist hipster
“oh no, someone doesn’t agree with my hate for another type of music. I know! i’ll bash their sexuality!”
wow, you nailed it with this comment
so if they were all just on their computers wearing normal cloths it would somehow be better?
The suits and LED lights are more for stuff to look at while rolling your balls off and entertainment. They are still playing their songs and people are still dancing to the tunes, the only thing that changed is the appearance, not the rave scene
Its not about the partly live experience, its about the ravin and being able to see the artists you like and hear the music with great sound quality and pant-shittingness bass, going with friends, having fun, and drugs
“If Destroid wants to dress up in robot suits and play midi guitars, let’em”
idk why i laughed
the guitars are basically just portable abelton controllers and and control the LEDs and show lighting, so they are pretty much different style computers
Destroid makes music they love and happen to be popular and make alot of money for it so that means they sold out, makes perfect sense.
or maybe you’re just an angry hipster that hates on anything that gets mild popularity. see? i can make unfair generalizations to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlZQYZZtAHk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgzw062d8PE
how is GWAR anything like destroid? i think you’re just a mad hipster
yes, because the fans have full control over what the artists put out
dude…”screeches” and sounds ARE EDM doesn’t matter what the fuck year or AGE it’s from….GUITARS ARE SCREECHY TOO, WTF…it’s not an argument
mcdonald’s does try to throw hip edm parties……but that has NOTHING to do with any of this….you clearly have seen a few pictures, maybe a video, and have minimal knowledge on how even half of this shit works…
“bro, do you even produce?”
is the thought that comes to my mind, the incredible talent that goes into the whole project is ridiculous, and the skill it takes to make something like that live, think about it. ITS FUCKING AMAZING
do any of you not know what DJing is? it has and always will be playing, mixing, or whatever the fuck you’re doing, live EDM music! They’ve found an incredible way of doing it and not only does it still have their own incredible original sounds and skills put into it, but it also looks FUCKING AMAZING! This is a Grade A example of a revolutionary idea, turned down by individuals or groups saying ”everything is totally fine the way it is, nothing needs to change”. It’s always happened in the past, and will always happen. Shit’s always changing and that’s inevitable. Excision is incredible and extremely talented and he’s doing something with it! WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPLAINING?!