There aren’t many things more EDM than RL Grime and Diplo shooting the breeze together. Well, other than their music of course.

Fans of either of these guys (or both) will find their conversation in the video below incredibly fascinating. The two producers sit down to talk about what it was like before RL Grime was RL Grime. And before Diplo knew what trap even was. Back when his label Mad Decent put out a This Is Dubstep compilation, featuring everyone from James Blake to Borgore to Rusko. It’s seriously crazy to think of times like these.

RL Grime is the main focus of the convo as Diplo plays host and gets the real play-by-play of his career. From coming up on SoundCloud to playing massive tours and through his current NOVA era, there’s a lot of info covered here in a short time.

There’s plenty of Diplo in the discussion, too. He gracefully weaves in tidbits about his own work including “Lean On,” Jack Ü and so much more.

It’s honestly heartwarming to hear the mad compliments and respect on both ends as these guys bro out and have a real conversation in front of the camera. Watch right here!

RL Grime & Diplo: In Conversation